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Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:05:13 PM   
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Female dominant forced bisexuality, It's something that I've been interested in for a long time. By this, I mean a women forcing you to go down on another guy, or forcing you to fuck him for her pleasure. Every time I've seen this mentioned, it's always in conjunction with cuckolding, which is not something that I'm into.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with it. If so, mind sharing some tips on where to find people who are interested in it?

Every guy that I've talked to about it just wants to fuck my girlfriend, and would only be interested if he would get to bang her. =/



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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:06:45 PM   
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Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 

Further. . .  you say that you have been interested in this.  I would suggest setting up a threesome.  It is not that difficult. 

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:10:38 PM   
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Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:16:12 PM   
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Not my kink, but since there is a lid for every jar, CM is probably a good place as any; set your search parameters to female Doms, and see who you can find. Or search discussion threads under Ask a Mistress to see who has contributed to that.

But since you are new, just remember that finding someone with a specific fetish can be like finding a needle in a haystack- it can take a long time.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:20:23 PM   
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If you don't want him to fuck your girlfriend, find a gay guy for your threesome.  Just make sure you're clear about the limitations of the relationship -- do you want a one-time thing or an ongoing affair?  Also, make sure your girlfriend is okay with it.  It's not cool to pressure anyone into doing something they're not comfortable with.  And make sure everyone gets tested before and after.  Use condoms.  It's not rocket science, dude.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:25:44 PM   
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So we are talking about is voluntary cocksuckery with displaced responsibility via the “forced” fantasy. This poor guy is gonna’ need a dictionary to rewrite the OP in PC terms.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 7:34:28 PM   
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If you can't find any who are willing participants in a relationship manner, and if you are single, hire two people. Hire a gay or bi guy, and a straight female. Or pay a pro dominatrix for a session (some probably cater to your fantasy though sex with her may not occur).

If you want it to be within the context of a relationship, finding the right combination of people will take time, patience, and investment of emotion.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:05:07 PM   
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So we are talking about is voluntary cocksuckery with displaced responsibility via the “forced” fantasy. This poor guy is gonna’ need a dictionary to rewrite the OP in PC terms.


I agree. Any man who thinks about 'forced bi' who identifies as straight is in denial. What degree of bisexual he is is up to him, but blaming someone else (which is what forced bi is really all about) is a cheap, sad little trick.


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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



I'm sorry.  I don't understand what you mean here.  Do you think we role play at being submissive and Dominant?  Do you think it's just a kinky turn on for some?  Why would this forum understand your role playing scenario any better than other adult forums? 

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:31:17 PM   
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There is no forced bisexual sex on my books, as long as what is happening is not legally of interest.

But i noticed a strange twist in some heterosexual mainly orientated bdsm circles, to call sexual acts with the same sex not bisexual but still heterosexual by force or some other weird concept.

Me, as a happy bi switch, have problems to grasp the concept.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:50:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

By this, I mean a women forcing you to go down on another guy, or forcing you to fuck him for her pleasure.



Dude... just admit you're into guys and be done with it; the above is little more than an excuse to do what you want to do anyway.  Go hook-up with a dude.



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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:53:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.


I'm sorry.  I don't understand what you mean here.  Do you think we role play at being submissive and Dominant?  Do you think it's just a kinky turn on for some?  Why would this forum understand your role playing scenario any better than other adult forums? 



Because there are a lot of kinky people here. It's not like "forced bi" (as much as an oxymoron as it is) is not tossed around here almost daily. So he thought people involved in our lifestyle wouldn't judge him.

Personally, I don't, but that's just because I talk to so many men daily that this is a fantasy for.

Is there such a thing as "forced bi" in the bdsm community? Idk...probably. But like he said, his is a fantasy roleplay.

OP, there are LOTS of guys who have your fantasies, and not that many women who would be into making them come true. (except as a for hire basis)

You either need to open yourself up to lots of experiences and hope a nice domme chooses to indulge you in yours sometime, or perhaps hire a professional.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 8:56:29 PM   
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Yes, there are a number of us here who have experience with it.

You may be interested in the famous "Heterosexual Males Sucking Cock" thread.  Many of us who are into this kink have detailed our opinions there.


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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 9:28:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



If you're looking for understanding, you're on the wrong board. There's not a lot of that here. Sorry. You'll find some, but probably not as much as you were hoping for. It's not as much fun as being snarky and judgmental.

And no, I'm not talking about everyone in this thread. I think the people I am talking about know who's who. OP, good luck, both in finding the answers you're looking for and in finding a forum that's not as cliquish and condescending as this one.


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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 9:51:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



I understand it. Here is what I hear from you and let me know if I got it wrong. You aren't gay. You probably don't want to be alone with a man. But the idea of a woman humiliating you by getting you (through persuasion) to suck a man's cock is a humiliation you are dying to experience, right?

If so, yup. Been there, done that, know a few happy boys that pushed their personal limits.

You say you have a girlfriend. Is she Domme? If so, maybe she shold be leading the search? She might have better results. And I say might hesitantly but I know I had more luck finding the men then my past boys did. I also used to turn to gay friends that didn't want to fuck me.

Anymore questions, I'd be glad to help.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 9:57:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

quote:

ORIGINAL: GiveandGive

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Frankly, if there is no gun to your head, it is not "forced." 


Well, yeah. But it's a roleplay thing, so I figured you guys would understand it.



If you're looking for understanding, you're on the wrong board. There's not a lot of that here. Sorry. You'll find some, but probably not as much as you were hoping for. It's not as much fun as being snarky and judgmental.

And no, I'm not talking about everyone in this thread. I think the people I am talking about know who's who. OP, good luck, both in finding the answers you're looking for and in finding a forum that's not as cliquish and condescending as this one.



He is talking about using a person for an experience that he may or may not enjoy.  He is talking about using a person to get his rocks off.  What is in it for the other person.  He is turned off by the idea that his object of lust wants to bang his girlfriend.  It is a rather crappy situation to be objectified and used for your sexual orientation.  And he just wants to use a guy. 

My original suggestion of putting togeather a threesome stands.  He has also been given the excellent suggestion of hiring someone. 

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:16:59 PM   
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My original suggestion of putting togeather a threesome stands.  He has also been given the excellent suggestion of hiring someone. 


He doesn't want a 3some as his girl apparently doesn't want to have sex with another man. And I'm not sure how many 3somes you've been in, but not all 3somes that include 2 guys 1 girl inherently include man on man cocksucking. Many straight guys that I know who are into this have a rule about no crossing swords, never mind sucking cock!

He's cute and young. He doesn't need to hire someone. He will find someone. I suggest that people who have experience in helping him with his legitimate OP chime in and those who don't, don't. I'm going to agree with Panda on this one. The kid doesn't come across as a wanker so lets not treat him as one.

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:25:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


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My original suggestion of putting togeather a threesome stands.  He has also been given the excellent suggestion of hiring someone. 


He doesn't want a 3some as his girl apparently doesn't want to have sex with another man. And I'm not sure how many 3somes you've been in, but not all 3somes that include 2 guys 1 girl inherently include man on man cocksucking. Many straight guys that I know who are into this have a rule about no crossing swords, never mind sucking cock!

He's cute and young. He doesn't need to hire someone. He will find someone. I suggest that people who have experience in helping him with his legitimate OP chime in and those who don't, don't. I'm going to agree with Panda on this one. The kid doesn't come across as a wanker so lets not treat him as one.

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I got the idea that HE did not want him having sex with his girlfriend. 

quote:

Every guy that I've talked to about it just wants to fuck my girlfriend, and would only be interested if he would get to bang her. =/


I do not think that he is a wanker.  Mostly I see the OP as selfish.  I have no idea how his girlfriend feels about this.  Does she want to "force" him to sick a cock?  Would strap-on play work?  Has he talked to her at all?  What is the problem with his girlfriend and the guy getting it on after he blows him? 

As someone who is bi, I have heard this before from females that are "bi-curious" and automatically think that I am interested in fulfilling their curiosity.  It is very objectifying. 

This is why I take issue with this.

I do not see the concern for how the other parties might feel about the whole situation.  Treating the other people involved AS people would help him a lot.  What is in this for all parties concerned.  Not just himself. 

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:32:46 PM   
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I do not think that he is a wanker. Mostly I see the OP as selfish. I have no idea how his girlfriend feels about this. Does she want to "force" him to sick a cock? Would strap-on play work? Has he talked to her at all? What is the problem with his girlfriend and the guy getting it on after he blows him?


Why is that any of your concern? If she isn't into it, they have 2 choices: they either don't do it or she leaves him. He's 19!! This is his time in life to totally have fun and experiment. Don't you remember when you were 19? Come on, cut the kid some slack.

Why not make this a friendlier place and give the curious kid the benefit of the doubt?

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RE: Forced Bi? - 1/30/2010 10:47:03 PM   
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Nobody batted an eyelash about "forced" play or "forced" struggling being some sort of illusion unless there's a gun put to your head here.

And what's this nonsense about reading into his words some sort of suggestion he's doing this without the consent of his partner?


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