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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/15/2012 2:18:55 PM   
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Crack versus meth.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/15/2012 2:29:27 PM   
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I can't believe this thread is still out there. I should believe it, but it's hard.

You know, I don't like skinny men. I like my men with some meat on them. It's a personal taste.
Sure, I supposed someone marvelous enough could get past that.

People are allowed to have personal tastes in their attractions to others, and thank fucking goodness, b/c they'd have them anyway.

If someone doesn't like who you are, then move the fuck on. It's not rocket science.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/15/2012 5:35:51 PM   
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I don't think I would be happy with a master who wants to change my body.

Although, I guess, if you really want to lose weight, then I guess easiest is to get someone to tie you up and allow you to consume only 1200 calories a day, and if you're tied up, you can't get food, except what's given to you. I came with the magical figure of 1200 because I read that this is the lowest you can go without hurting your metabolism.

Sure way to lose weight. And extremely fast too.

No matter how you scream and shout this is abuse lol, he or she should just ignore.

Or either just be locked in a room with a toilet. And only given food for the bare necessity of it. Just one month will do wonders.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/15/2012 7:34:58 PM   
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ok, I can't resist:

What's the difference between a crackhead and a tweaker?
The crackhead will steal your shit and bounce--the tweaker will steal your shit and then help you look for it.

Piling on

Q-Why do crackheads like to have sex doggie style?

A-So they can both look out the blinds at once!

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/15/2012 9:08:30 PM   
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OK... Now I have too (it is not because of my new picture...nope)

Q: How do you know when a crackhead has robbed your house?

A: The garbage is missing and the cats pregnant

Q: How do you know when it was a tweaker?

A: They also took the cat


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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/16/2012 1:23:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

ok, I can't resist:

What's the difference between a crackhead and a tweaker?
The crackhead will steal your shit and bounce--the tweaker will steal your shit and then help you look for it.


Ok, I am so not up with English drug slang, cause I had no idea everybody was taking the tweaker nick as a meth reference until LW's joke made me google... damn and I used to be so up to date on lingo like this... now I just feel old...


ETA: Which BTW, tweaker dude has rewritten his profile after it got deleted (presumable by mods as my post making reference to said previous profile got pulled by a mod) and is again mentioning the same illegal activities that got a bunch of posts pulled earlier.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/16/2012 7:58:31 AM   
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Gives a person cause to ponder what a tweaker believes 'infrequent' to be...

BTW.....said tweaker believes there to be a posse' of extinct Jewish folk roaming these forums.

I told ya the tweaking was a brain frying activity!!

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/16/2012 6:49:59 PM   
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I'm actually having this problem right now.
I have been talking with a dom a lot for the last few days. It seemed like we both wanted the same thing out of a Master/slave relationship, we had some vanilla things in common, everything seemed to be going really well. Then he asked me to send him a picture of my whole body so he could see what I look like. Suddenly the emails stopped. I can see that he read the message, and he has been on this evening, but nothing. It sucks.
I do want to lose weight, and I've tried, it just won't come off. I tried a series of workout DVDs and kept at it religiously for 5 months. It took me 2 months to lose 10 pounds, and then I didn't lose any more after that, even after 3 more months. It's frustrating. Then having people reject you for your weight on top of that, and it reallly really sucks.

Edited to add: I completely understand that people have a right to their preferences, and I accept that he's just not attracted to me. However, he never once said that he didn't accept BBWs, and you can see from my profile picture that I'm not model skinny.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/16/2012 8:16:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: autumnsylver

I'm actually having this problem right now.
I have been talking with a dom a lot for the last few days. It seemed like we both wanted the same thing out of a Master/slave relationship, we had some vanilla things in common, everything seemed to be going really well. Then he asked me to send him a picture of my whole body so he could see what I look like. Suddenly the emails stopped. I can see that he read the message, and he has been on this evening, but nothing. It sucks.
I do want to lose weight, and I've tried, it just won't come off. I tried a series of workout DVDs and kept at it religiously for 5 months. It took me 2 months to lose 10 pounds, and then I didn't lose any more after that, even after 3 more months. It's frustrating. Then having people reject you for your weight on top of that, and it reallly really sucks.

Edited to add: I completely understand that people have a right to their preferences, and I accept that he's just not attracted to me. However, he never once said that he didn't accept BBWs, and you can see from my profile picture that I'm not model skinny.


The problem's not with you, autumn; I reckon this ersatz "Dom" likely didn't even read your entire profile to begin with.

I take issue with people who request full body pics; it seems to scream "serial masturbator" rather than "dominant".

His loss, I believe; just see it as a lesson learned. You'll do fine, I assure you.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 8:34:00 AM   
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I do want to lose weight, and I've tried, it just won't come off. I tried a series of workout DVDs and kept at it religiously for 5 months. It took me 2 months to lose 10 pounds, and then I didn't lose any more after that, even after 3 more months. It's frustrating.


At my gym there's a sign that says "Weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise" - IOW, focus 80% of your effort into healthy eating.

Normally I focus on exercise, but I was complaining to my sister over Easter that my bad knee has made it hard to exercise. She recommended myfitnesspal.com, which is free, and since then I have lost 22 pounds. It is very important to bring awareness to your eating.

See also http://www.crankyfitness.com/2010/01/diet-or-exercise-which-is-more.html

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 8:55:56 AM   
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I do want to lose weight, and I've tried, it just won't come off. I tried a series of workout DVDs and kept at it religiously for 5 months. It took me 2 months to lose 10 pounds, and then I didn't lose any more after that, even after 3 more months. It's frustrating. Then having people reject you for your weight on top of that, and it reallly really sucks.


I would suggest going to the doctor and asking them to run tests for thyroid, PCOS and insulin resistance.

I have a hereditary disease that puberty will trigger insulin resistance. I tried everything and it turns out that the "calories in/calories out" people did more harm to my body. Once the disease was diagnosed, I realized that for me it wasn't about how much I eat, but actually about what I eat.

So, before you go beating yourself up, I would have the doctor to see if there is something wrong with your endocrine system.


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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 9:12:35 AM   
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Which Diet Works?

JUNE 26, 2012, 8:30 PM

By MARK BITTMAN

One of the challenges of arguing that hyperprocessed carbohydrates are largely responsible for the obesity pandemic ("epidemic" is no longer a strong enough word, say many experts) is the notion that "a calorie is a calorie."

Accept that, and you buy into the contention that consuming 100 calories' worth of sugar water (like Coke or Gatorade), white bread or French fries is the same as eating 100 calories of broccoli or beans. And Big Food - which has little interest in selling broccoli or beans - would have you believe that if you expend enough energy to work off those 100 calories, it simply doesn't matter.

There's an increasing body of evidence, however, that calories from highly processed carbohydrates like white flour (and of course sugar) provide calories that the body treats differently, spiking both blood sugar and insulin and causing us to retain fat instead of burning it off.

In other words, all calories are not alike.

You might need a little background here: To differentiate "bad" carbs from "good," scientists use the term "glycemic index" (or "load") to express the effect of the carbs on blood sugar. High glycemic diets cause problems by dramatically increasing blood sugar and insulin after meals; low glycemic diets don't. Highly processed carbohydrates (even highly processed whole grains, like instant oatmeal and fluffy whole-grain breads) tend to make for higher glycemic diets; less processed grains, fruits, non-starchy vegetables, legumes and nuts - along with fat and protein - make for a lower glycemic diet.

A new study published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association adds powerfully to the notion that low glycemic diets are the way forward. (Or, actually, backward, since the low glycemic diet is largely traditional.) The work took place at the New Balance Foundation Obesity Prevention Center of Boston Children's Hospital, and looked at people's ability to maintain weight loss, which is far more difficult than losing weight. (Few people maintain even a small portion of their weight loss after dieting.) To do this, the researchers - led by the center's associate director Cara Ebbeling and director David Ludwig - put three groups of people on diets to lose 10 to 15 percent of their body weight.

They then assigned each of the dieters, in random order, to follow four weeks each of three diets with the same number of calories.

1. One was a standard low-fat diet: 60 percent carbohydrates - with an emphasis on fruits, vegetables and whole grains (but not unprocessed ones) - 20 percent from protein and 20 percent from fat. This is the low-fat diet that has been reigning "wisdom" for the last 30 years or more.

2. Another was an ultra-low-carb diet (for convenience, we'll call this "Atkins"), of 10 percent of calories from carbs, 60 percent from fat and 30 percent from protein.

3. And the third was a low glycemic diet, with 40 percent carbs - minimally processed grains, fruit, vegetables and legumes - 40 percent fat and 20 percent protein.

The results were impressive. Those on the "Atkins" diet burned 350 calories more per day - the equivalent of an hour of moderate exercise - than those on the standard low-fat diet. Those on the low-glycemic diet burned 150 calories more, roughly equivalent to an hour of light exercise.

Three conclusions you can draw on the face of this: One is that the kind of calories you eat does matter. Two, as Ludwig concludes, is that "the low-fat diet that has been the primary approach for more than a generation is actually the worst for most outcomes, with the worst effects on insulin resistance, triglycerides and HDL, or good cholesterol." And three, we should all be eating an "Atkins" diet.

But not so fast; the "Atkins" diet also had marked problems. It raised levels of CRP (c-reactive protein), which is a measure of chronic inflammation, and cortisol, a hormone that mediates stress. "Both of these," says Ludwig, "are tightly linked to long term-heart risk and mortality."

His conclusion, then? "The 'Atkins' diet gives you the biggest metabolic benefit initially, but there are long-term downsides, and in practice, people have trouble sticking to low-carb diets. Over the long term, the low-glycemic diet appears to work the best, because you don't have to eliminate an entire class of nutrients, which our research suggests is not only hard from a psychological perspective but may be wrong from a biological perspective."

Almost every diet, from the radical no-carb-at-all notions to the tame (and sane) "Healthy Eating Plate" from Harvard, agrees on at least this notion: reduce, or even come close to eliminating, the amount of hyper-processed carbohydrates in your diet, because, quite simply, they're bad for you. And if you look at statistics, at least a quarter of our calories come from added sugars (seven percent from beverages alone), white flour, white rice, white pasta are you seeing a pattern here? (Oh, and white potatoes. And beer.)

So what's Ludwig's overall advice? "It's time to reacquaint ourselves with minimally processed carbs. If you take three servings of refined carbohydrates and substitute one of fruit, one of beans and one of nuts, you could eliminate 50 percent of diet-related disease in the United States. These relatively modest changes can provide great benefit."

The message is pretty simple: unprocessed foods give you a better chance of idealizing your weight - and your health. Because all calories are not created equal.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 9:18:39 AM   
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myfitnesspal does use the least effective low fat diet 60:20:20 ratio in the article above. However, since I eat very little processed food, the actual ratio I achieve is closer to the low glycemic diet, but with more protein and less fat. On myfitnesspal, I am always way under on my carbs and over on protein. I shoot for the fat target.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 9:23:22 AM   
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Yup. For the most part I don't eat flour, rice, potatoes, sugar, corn, high sugar fruits or drink fruit juice.

(I was surprised to find out that many fruits have been selectively bred to have higher sugar levels than they did when we were children.)

The side benefit is that just removing those items from diet gives me more energy and improves my mood.

I've been bad lately and need to get back to eating better.

What's funny is that reduced carbs diets were recommended for literally centuries. The first published book that suggests limiting refined carbs was in the early 1800s. It was recommended because it worked. Then somewhere in the 50s, a scientist did a very un-scientific study about fat and cholesterol, and suddenly thermogenic and low fat diets came into fashion. (It turns out that cholesterol study was very flawed.) The movie Fathead is great for learning more (it's on YouTube).

I was reading that fat is essential for brain development, and there's a study happening that is looking to see if low fat diets in children and ADD/ADHD are linked.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 9:41:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

See also http://www.crankyfitness.com/2010/01/diet-or-exercise-which-is-more.html

from the article-
"And then there’s this third article which suggests that exercise may actually be adding to the obesity epidemic in this country.
They cite the Minnesota Heart Survey which reported that in 1980, 47% of the population said they got regular exercise versus 57% in 2000."


I dont know that i believe that.. imo, there are unanswered questions that should be taken into account, such as, the age of the population- if its an older population today then as you get older your metabolism slows down contributing to being overweight..

what do they mean by "exercise"? do they mean people actually setting aside time to exericise or do they mean the level of every day activity? what is their definition? plus if its real exercise, that too comes in different forms.. does the person put in the most minor effort or is it intensity training, do they lift weights too or not? how much do they vary their workouts? etc etc..

and- what types of jobs did people have? Now so many more people have sedentary jobs, sitting at desks and not moving much.. which also contributes to gaining weight..

what would happen if people had a treadmill desk instead? or did this at home instead of sitting on the sofa while they watched tv or were online here at CM?
http://www.treadmill-desk.com/

and imo, if i dont exercise i gain weight and i also eat badly (much more food & too much junk), a double whammy.. exercise actually keeps me on track and focused on both my activity level and my diet.. that is just me, tho..

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 11:58:43 AM   
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and imo, if i dont exercise i gain weight and i also eat badly (much more food & too much junk), a double whammy.. exercise actually keeps me on track and focused on both my activity level and my diet.. that is just me, tho..


This is a me ^

Exercise makes me feel good because it releases stress. Less stress makes me more in control and that includes what I put in my mouth. Also when we exercise we drink plenty of water to keep us hydrated and water acts as an appetite suppressant.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 1:39:57 PM   
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Well 1st off why would anyone wish to be with someone who didn't find them attractive?

2nd, Everyone is wired differently. I have a best friend who won't even look at a woman who isn't anorexic. Seriously, if she doesn't have bones sticking out everywhere he's not remotely interested. To make matters worse he considers anyone who isn't like that obese. We've had many conversations over it and he knows it's wrong but that's how he's wired.

3rd, It's ALL, TOTALLY about self image.
What is in your head and attitude can overshadow ALL other concerns.
I have met women who were HUGE who had me convinced in minutes that they were the most desirable creature on the planet. I have also met supermodels I wouldn't give the time of day too. However, for me generally if someone is REASONABLY Height/Weight Proportionate, we're good on that score.

Honestly, looks escape us all at some point. I used to get told I had a world class ass, now it's just world sized.

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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/17/2012 5:56:45 PM   
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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 8/19/2012 8:35:36 PM   
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RE: Doms that do not accept BBWs - 9/4/2012 12:36:05 PM   
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I think this is sad, I am "morbidly obese" according to the numbers HOWEVER I am looking out for my weight and its not for anyone BUT myself...and thats who you need to think about YOURSELF if you feel you need to make changes do it for YOU not anyone eles. I am currently learning to eat in portions, I walk everyday i also do zumba aswell as yoga and for the summer i did water fitness! But with thyroid issues I am still big..! I dont allow people to cut me down just because im a BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMEN...If men dont like me because I am a bigger girl well tough cookies...! you can't base your Master search on what he is looking for you have to find a master who already is going to like who you are NOW...I mean what happens if you loose some weight but not all the weight? I am also looking into weight loss surgery BUT it isnt a "instant" fix..you have to watch what you eat, exercize, etc and you can't go back to your old ways! a Master should be supportive too and love you for WHO you are now not say oh if you loose weigh i might consider you! That's disgusting!! Yes being overweight might be "unhealthy" but then again so is smoking, eatting unhealthy foods,talking on your cell phone when driving etc etc! I hope you find a Master who will love you for who you are NOW, someone who is supportive in whatever you decide to do !
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