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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 2:13:42 AM

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I look at it this way..If I had a dog and I woke up at 3am and decided to take my dog out for a run, what would happen? The dog would wake up, wag his/her little tail and happily run alongside me. If it barked at me every time I woke it up, or attempted to play fetch, I wouldn't have much incentive to keep the dog, would I? Why then, should the situation differ to such an extreme degree with my puppyslut?

Have you ever had a puppy or dog that lived inside with you? My dog Lady, a cocker spaniel is obedient when she isn't tired, mostly, but if she's on her pillow sleeping or resting or lying on the floor and you want her to go potty, she will put her head up, look at you, and lay back down. You can yell and pester at her to go, and she might either groan lowly and get up and go, or completely ignore you. If you tug at her collar she might snap and growl at you. But you know what, she is a very very very good dog. She's full of personality, loving, and though she's a bit of a princess, she's usually obedient and very good and sweet. I know when not to bait and test her. I don't grab a bone from under her nose.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 2:27:56 AM

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FR to the OP:

You know I was kind of with you and thinking she was out of line up until the point you called her an insane piece of shit on a public forum. In my opinion, that transgression is much worse than "throwing a fit" and might be a clear indication of why she doesn't listen to you. We do things we don't find enjoyable because someone that cares about us desires it. Someone that refers to us in that manner on a public forum, quite obviously doesn't.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 2:37:57 AM

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I have a problem with the Dad in general. I had a weak father myself... but not like that.

The OP stated the father was on the couch because he had nowhere else to stay because of some relationship problems?

This lady ..this sub can't be fixed by the OP. Her problems are too deep. And when your father is so unstable he has to sleep on his daughters couch..that is a real issue of big time baggage.

unfortunately a child picks and chooses who to model themselves after. If the dominant parent is weak...then the child learns to manipulate others using weakness.

What ends up on the couch(if he is male and grown) is generally an abuser.

Your puppy/slave is a manipulative person but it is not her fault. This is the only way she surivived that family.

Spoiled? What about neglected?

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 2:41:00 AM

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I think that the OP is just as spoilt as his sub ... and honestly being spoilt, on either side, I don't think it's really flattering...and the OP sure doesn't sound all too dominant to me.

waking up at 5am my ass, if I were to do that I would need to GRADUALLY wake up more early, and take a few days to do it, or wake up at 5am a couple of days (might be a week or two) in a row..but you sure as hell wouldn't be able to get me service you because I'd have enough troubles handling myself! I'd look like a friggin moron doin the thing I was supposed to do and I doubt I could do it properly because my brain'd be shut off!

In normal situation I think I'd just tell the person to f*ck off and roll on the other side and continue to sleep..unless it was an imergency, that would probably trigger me wide awake

I don't know about you guys but I'm not very good at swinging my wakeup habits back and forth depending on how it suits somebody.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 4:40:13 AM

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A few random responses to nobody in particular:

Many of you are making a big deal out of the father being there. I assure you that his presence in no way affected her behavior. Neither she, nor I would have cared if it was the pope out there. Quite frankly, we're both deranged enough to find that particular situation as a little bit exciting.

Another thing that may play a factor in all of this is the fact that, at the very least, the two of us have been very close friends for the last 2 years. she may have even fallen in love with me before we'd ever begun a M/s relationship. These two things, I believe, make it very hard for her to understand why I would be as unforgiving as I am in regards to her acting as a slave.

Yes, she was neglected as a child. Yes, her family life has always been fucked. And Yes, I understand that all of this should have been a sign that a M/s relationship was a bad idea with her.

As for her being psychotic or mental, this isn't something I say because she won't listen to me. Quite simply, she is and I'm being honest about it. Is it her fault? No. Was I foolish to think she'd be able to exercise self control given all I know about her, yes.

she would be the first to admit that she needs professional help. This is something that she will be pursuing and although she's been released as a slave, I will remain a friend and a source of support for her.

one last thing, for all of you bastards who wished me ill..you'll be happy to know that upon coming home and attempting to finish up hour number two, she puked all over me after 20 minutes.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 5:42:36 AM

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she is a puppy slave. she came to me as a puppy looking to be owned, I was looking for a TPE slave.

i think part of the answer as to why your M/s relationship isn't working is given right there. She's trying to be something that she isn't and you're both compromising on what kind of relationship you both seek just to be with each other. Also, in my opinion, a TPE relationship takes time to build. You can't expect it to be perfect from the beginning. That could be part of the reason she fights you on things. If you think she has the potential to be a TPE slave for you, then keep working on things, perhaps a bit more slowly. If not, then move on. Don't let her manipulate you by saying she can't live without you either. She's more than likely saying that just so that you won't leave, to guilt you into staying.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 5:56:06 AM

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I finally looked at the OP's profile and realized the problem. 24 years old. Yup, at that age and trying to be all masterful and all can be a bit of a problem.

Good luck with all that-- and it's a shame that you were puked on.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 5:59:05 AM

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If you think she has the potential to be a TPE slave for you, then keep working on things, perhaps a bit more slowly.

I think she has a lot to work on before attempting to be a slave for anyone.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 6:00:24 AM

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and it's a shame that you were puked on.

I think it's kinda funny..

not kinda...it is funny haha

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 6:02:17 AM

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If you think she has the potential to be a TPE slave for you, then keep working on things, perhaps a bit more slowly.

I think she has a lot to work on before attempting to be a slave for anyone.

Yes, i'm sure she does. What you have to decide is if you want to be the one to work with her or not. From what i gathered from your posts about her, she sounds like it would be more work than you want. Perhaps she needs to grow up some and get her life more together. She is still quite young. Maybe the best bet is to be a supportive friend to her and find someone else to be your slave.

Edited for typo....

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 6:06:28 AM

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I think it's kinda funny.. not kinda...it is funny haha

Yeah, I had a bit of a splort to clean up when I read it the first time.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 6:07:41 AM

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Maybe the best bet is to be a supportive friend to her and find someone else to be your slave.

That is the conclusion I have drawn, although I doubt I'll be taking on anyone as a slave in the immediate future.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 6:09:56 AM

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That is the conclusion I have drawn, although I doubt I'll be taking on anyone as a slave in the immediate future.

Taking some time off for yourself is probably a good idea.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 7:04:41 AM

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before you can master another, you have to master yourself.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 7:08:54 AM

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Talk about trite responses.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 7:25:39 AM

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*laughs* Look in the mirror, MrD. Being succinct doesn't make it any less true.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 7:46:13 AM

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before you can master another, you have to master yourself.

indeed.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 9:44:26 AM

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I finally looked at the OP's profile and realized the problem. 24 years old. Yup, at that age and trying to be all masterful and all can be a bit of a problem.

Good luck with all that-- and it's a shame that you were puked on.

you can have no experience at any age, and a great amount of experience at 24 years old....

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 10:05:34 AM

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This is something that she will be pursuing and although she's been released as a slave, I will remain a friend and a source of support for her.

Well, that didn't take long.

Don't forget my advice for when you stop posturing in a month or two.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/26/2007 10:18:25 AM

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you can have no experience at any age, and a great amount of experience at 24 years old....

agreed. an individual is no more than the sum of their experiences. At 24, I've been involved in the lifestyle, to varying degrees, for the last six years. While TPE may be something that is new to me, D/s not.

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Don't forget my advice for when you stop posturing in a month or two.

I have no idea what your advice was. Odds are it was ignored, as are most with your attitude. Save the pissing contests for the watersports threads, your input is not required.

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