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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/30/2008 3:37:35 PM

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I take self proclaimed anything with a dump truck load of salt. weather it's someone on CM with Master, Lord, Mistress whatever. Hell even a self ordained proclaimed minister. Lots of them running around as well. To my mind anyone that is self proclaimed really isn't

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/30/2008 4:08:45 PM

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My favorites are the 18 year old masters with 10 years of real life experience. I'd like to know how that worked.

GI Joe, a mass of Barbie dolls, and a wicked imagination would be my guess....

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/30/2008 4:45:18 PM

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Theres a difference between someone who can dominate and one who can...master.

If you observe...watch and listen...you will know who the masters are and who the ones that are...not.

Can someone at 21? I think....very rare but...`ey...so are diamonds in the rough.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 1:17:16 AM

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I had to laugh a little when I read this. It seemed so familiar then I realized I had seen those exact words before in a thread I started a few days back.

I don't think I'll add anything new just echo what has been said before. Perhaps a 21 top isn't mature enough for everyone however, the same can be said about a 45 year old top. It is all about the individual.

While I am only 21 I don't feel that you reach xx age and are suddenly mature enough for everyone.

But then again, thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 3:15:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: NewMaster86

I had to laugh a little when I read this. It seemed so familiar then I realized I had seen those exact words before in a thread I started a few days back.

I don't think I'll add anything new just echo what has been said before. Perhaps a 21 top isn't mature enough for everyone however, the same can be said about a 45 year old top. It is all about the individual.

While I am only 21 I don't feel that you reach xx age and are suddenly mature enough for everyone.

But then again, thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.

Well you make a good point. You can be seen mature by some one..while others find you a kid. I still hear that a lott abour my behaviour lol.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 5:38:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master?
I find it hard to understand how one so young could have the understanding, wisdom and life experiance which is needed to be a Master.

From what age do you take them serious?

Thanks for your answers.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 9:09:56 AM

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wasn't lolita younger and a female (not a Master?) ;)

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 10:01:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master?
I find it hard to understand how one so young could have the understanding, wisdom and life experiance which is needed to be a Master.

From what age do you take them serious?

Thanks for your answers.

GoddezzT`

When the 20-something's contact me as a Dom, i say, no disrespect, but i'm interested in someone my own age. i don't see a problem w/a Dom that age IF they're sub is also in the same age bracket. Like someone said..."You gotta start somewhere".

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 10:57:06 AM

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 12:46:50 PM

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Actually when you think about it, the same question applies to a 21 year old sub. How can a person who has not yet gotten any personal power transfer something they don't have to another? How can they choose a partner carefully and well when they have insufficient life experience to help them know what characteristics they need in a partner and what characteristics they cannot tolerate?

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 1:06:45 PM

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I feel that earning the title of master requires maturity, confidence, stability, and control. These can exist independent of age, but are usually found in those roughly at least 30 years of age. Even though there are exceptions to every rule, I still have a hard time taking anyone seriously until they are bare minimum 25.

This is very hypocritical for me to say, as I am younger than that. I don't expect anyone to take me seriously until I prove that I deserve otherwise.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 1:29:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master?
I find it hard to understand how one so young could have the understanding, wisdom and life experiance which is needed to be a Master.

From what age do you take them serious?

Thanks for your answers.

GoddezzT`

Have you ever read LOLITA?

Lolita was a fiction novel. Unless that was sarcasm, I don't understand.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 1:35:03 PM

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What I believe was meant about Lolita, was that in the book, Lolita was portrayed as being very precocious in all ways, including sexually for her young age and being fairly manipulative as well. In the movie versions, she was very much so, especially the latest incarnation.

Of course, this is fictional, and based on the fantasies of an older man, but I agree with the point cloudboy was making.

Age has nothing to do with desire or even power. It has everything to do with whom you are interacting with and if that power and desire work on THEM.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 2:19:26 PM

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Actually when you think about it, the same question applies to a 21 year old sub. How can a person who has not yet gotten any personal power transfer something they don't have to another? How can they choose a partner carefully and well when they have insufficient life experience to help them know what characteristics they need in a partner and what characteristics they cannot tolerate?

I am not sure how you were when you were 21, but I think a lot of people are making some serious stretches here. Maybe if we are talking about a teenager around 17-18, but come on.

I'm 24 and I work two jobs, have a very well developed resume of education and experience in culinary arts, a landlord who is responsible for the maintence and bills of a peice of property that I rent rooms out to for profit, and am preparing to go into buisness for myself next summer.

Now...at the same time, there is a distinct difference between me and the average college kid. I was on my own at 17 with no support from parents.

But...still...even with that, there is a large gap from the clueless, naive, idiotic 20 year olds people are depicting here.

Everyone going "Well, how can a 21 year old be a dominant or submissive, when they don't have the experience to do it right?" is missing the point.

How do I have the experience and knowledge and confidence to be able to start my own buisness at 24? How am I able to very successfully manage a property occuppied by some tenants who are twice my age at 24?

The only way you gain experience and confidence in something is by challenging yourself and attempting to do all the things you have never done.

You don't learn what characteristics and traits to avoid in partners until you've had some relationships and made some mistakes. (My response to your other question is that it's silly and I find the idea of trying to imply that a 21 year old has no personal power to be offensive and insulting).

Maybe 21 year olds shouldn't enter into any kind of sexual relationship, because they might lack the life experience to know who is a good guy and who is the one who wants to fuck you, get you pregnant and stick you with a kid. Maybe they shouldn't own appartments and have bills since their lack of experience with managing such things can result in them going into debt. Maybe they shouldn't drink because they have no experience with drinking and might drink too much.

Unfortanely, the only way you get all this life and BDSM experience that all everybody wants to Oooo and Aaaahhh about is by attempting to do the things you have no experience with, screwing up, and learning.

If I had listened to everyone said "Oh you can't handle this because your too young", I won't be anywhere close to the person I am now.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 2:40:29 PM

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Now...at the same time, there is a distinct difference between me and the average college kid. I was on my own at 17 with no support from parents.

Not aimed at you, but some one close to me. I saw people going out of the house young..beeing on themselfs..thinking they know how to handle the whole world.
While they actually, with out parents, weren't correct anymore or were pointed at their mistakes...and still didn't really mature in cetain things. On the other side...there were things in which they were more matured then their average age group.

Doesn't always say something beeing "Self supporting" at a young age. And of course many people beeing selfsupportign at a young age..have often sad reasons for this.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 3:07:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: GoddessTeaze

How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master?
I find it hard to understand how one so young could have the understanding, wisdom and life experiance which is needed to be a Master.

From what age do you take them serious?

Thanks for your answers.

GoddezzT`

The term Master or Mistress in some cases; is nothing more than a title of respect and or courtesy afforded to some by others. It is not an indication of age, experience, wisdom, or life experience.
If an 18 year old chooses to title himself/herself; that is their prerogative. Whether or not I choose to use the title is a different story.
Of course, these are only my observations and in no way are meant to reflect the opinions of others.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 3:25:54 PM

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By having a person who thinks of him as one, and acts in accord.

It's a dynamic, not an education course.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 4:45:01 PM

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BRAVO, MadRabbit!

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 5:24:42 PM

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Lolita was a fiction novel. Unless that was sarcasm, I don't understand.

LOLITA was the dominant one in her relationship with HH.

HH would do or would have done anything for her. She had the control. He didn't. He was pretty much her slave.

The point being: maturity is not a condition precedent to sexual, social subservience or dominance.

In general, woman and F's are always dominant --- making males chase after them to earn a position of intimacy.

Dominant men just have a different way of expressing their subservience.

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RE: How can a 21 year old possibly be a Master? - 1/31/2008 8:11:09 PM

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I take self proclaimed anything with a dump truck load of salt. weather it's someone on CM with Master, Lord, Mistress whatever. Hell even a self ordained proclaimed minister. Lots of them running around as well. To my mind anyone that is self proclaimed really isn't

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