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Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 5:06:15 PM   
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I am having problems with my bi-polar meds and it is becoming difficult for me to be what my Master wants of me. So I have noticed quite a bit of people on here are bi-polar or at least some threads I have seen discussing medicine and stuff have said this. I was wondering if any of you with bi-polar have had rapid mood swings when taking a new mood stabilizer? I have been having mood swings so bad that every hour I am on a new mood. Depression seems to stick around a bit and it is really making me tired. My doctor doesn't think it is out of the ordinary so I am wondering if this is normal. Sometimes I feel like I am going nuts. Ok enough of that anyway sorry for all that but I am wondering if anyone else has had these problems.
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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 5:31:51 PM   
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The question is always how long have you allowed yourself to adjust to the new meds?


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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 7:03:05 PM   
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Well, I have been on them it was a week yesterday. But I have never had mood swings like this I mean they are very rapid, usually I have mood swing with weeks or days between not like this, and thank you LA for the links.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:07:33 PM   
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zindy:

My moods are different.  I tend to go from struggles with depression to mania.  I know when I am in mania because I get really out of control.  I have people who "watch" me.   Then I go immediately to the doc.
This is the first time he ever put me on a mania med.  It took me about three weeks to level out, and now I am fine.
I am working again which is a huge deal for me.   I thought I was not going to be able to work.
There are different levels of bipolar.  Your case may be different from my case.
The only thing I will say is see a pshyce. They can fix it for you.  It does take a while to adjust to the meds.
Mood swings every hour are a bit strange, so go have it checked out.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:22:32 PM   
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Well, I called the doctor and he just didn't want me to quit taking my mood med just my anti depressant because I would eat with it and it was still make me sick. I guess it is normal I don't know and with Lamictal it is tricky because next Monday I have to up the dosage because they start low because the side effects are horrible if started out at a high dose. I just hope that upping the dosage doesn't make this worse or keep it going I just feel like I am at my wits end over this. I am just feeling horrible. If it doesn't straighten out soon I will be calling the doc again.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:35:46 PM   
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Most "New" medication that you switch to will take some adjusting. Especialy when it's mental medication. Fatigue and drowsyness will hit hard when you first start taking the medication. It's going to take time for your brain to refigure chemicals and electrical impulses. Most patients do not begin to see positive results untill after atleast a couple of weeks if not three months. In your case, you really do need to stick this one out for another month before going back and saying "I need a dosage change or new drug."

That's just the way anti psychotic and depressent medication works.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:37:57 PM   
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If you're unhappy with your medication, and have given it the doctor recommended amount of time to work (or, if it's making you sick, or even more depressed, then even if you haven't given it that much time to see if it will work) - talk to your doctor again.

If he refuses to let you try a different medication to see if that will work better instead, I'd find another doctor.

I suffer from uni-polar, not bi-polar depression, but I do know that there are a vast number of medications one can try, for both types (possibly fewer for bi-polar, but still, I know there are several meds on the market for that.)

When I first started having severe depression, I was amazed at a few doctors who refused to try a different medication, if I reported that one I was on wasn't working very well.

Granted, this was back in 1980, when anti-depressants were just beginning to develop into the variety of types of meds we see on the market today. Still, the same thing can happen today, to a patient who is seeking medical advice or help. I finally became angry enough to tell one doctor that I was highly offended that he'd put my suffering behind his precious ego, as far as importance.

I said that I didn't think that was what practicing good medicine was all about, and told him I was going to find another doctor. Then I did just that.

Maybe your doctor is honestly trying to do the right thing, and if that is your impression, I'd give them a fair chance to figure out what will work for you. But - if you start feeling like they just aren't listening at all, there are lots of doctors out there. I think it's anyone's right to find one who takes their patient's feed-back seriously.

So, I'd check your insurance policy to see which other doctors are on your "preferred providers" list (if there is that kind of stipulation on your insurance), and choose another doctor, if he or she refuses to listen to you. Otherwise, I'd check the Yellow Pages for a doctor referral service, or just listings of psychiatrists. Good luck.

- Susan 

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:41:46 PM   
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zindy:

Call your doctor and check on this med. Better yet, look it up and see the side effects of it.
I am curious as to why he took you off the anti-depressent.  Usually, they leave you on that one.
Just call the doc.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:49:18 PM   
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I have seen this doctor in the past and he is a very good doctor. I went for a couple of years with out any meds and then he started me out on these. I have never been this sick on any meds before and the only time I have had mood swings like this was when I was first started on another mood stabilizer. I have only been taking these meds for 8 days and as I said before I called about the nausea and the mood swings and he was only concerned about the nausea but the last time I had problems with my mood stablizer the dose wasn't high enough and I am wondering if that could be the case now of course I know that to up the dose means harm to me so I wouldn't ask the doc for me to do that. I really don't want those side effects. I have been cycling between depression, mania, and hypomania, and it is horrible. Just about all day to day I was depressed and I just wanted to sleep all day and I can't do that it just isn't feasible to. Then I was allowed to nap when I did wake up I went straight into mania....the energy it uses to go between these moods is alot, it drains what little bit of energy you have left. I guess it doesn't help with all the stress I am under...my Master is bi-polar just diagnosed really, and he isn't stablized and that kinda causes problems and my dad died in January I guess just the stress could be compounding what the meds are causing....Any one know anything about that happening. Sorry this post is so long but I feel maybe I can get a better understanding if more is explained.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:57:55 PM   
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Well it's good you trust your doctor. It sounds like they will listen to you then. Still, I know that all meds don't always work the same for everyone. I would trust the doctor to an extent, and maybe the experience is different for someone on uni-polar anti-depresant meds, but I know that Paxil and Prozac almost made me suicidal.

I told my doctor right away when my meds began to make me feel worse than I felt before taking them. He immediately told me to stop taking them. After about 5 months, and it wasn't all that much fun in the process, but, we finally found one that works like a charm, and I've taken it ever since.

It was worth the work and the wait, for me. I felt better after I found the right medication than I had felt in years.

I realize there is a stabilizing period as far as meds, but if the cure is worse than the disease, then it isn't going to really be helpful, IMO. I'd keep in contact with your doctor, re: How the meds are making you feel on a daily basis, if necessary, and if you really just think they are not working, or are making you feel a lot worse, then definitely talk with the doctor to see about the possibility of switching to some other medication.

Sorry to hear about your dad. I know that must be difficult. Good luck to you. Hang in there.

- Susan

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 8:59:26 PM   
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Your poor dear:

I am so sorry for the loss of your father.  I believe that has triggered some of this behavior.  Your Master as well has issues. 
Both should just sit down and work through the health issues first, and then worry about your BDSM relationship.
I hate the sleep part. The meds drain you.  Then you feel really wonderful for a while after you level out.
Lithium seems to be the magic pill for me. 
My doc guards it closely.   I don't miss an appointment either.  
I wish you well and hope these meds get straightened out soon, but your Master will understand since he has the same issues.

Regards, MissSCD

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 9:07:15 PM   
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Well the lithium worked for me but he said the side effects were bad but what I don't understand is this that he has me on is worse! We are focusing on our health first but I feel really close to Master when we are scening...it is hard to explain. I feel the stress is making this whole thing worse. But I have been on Prozac and it made me feel like I had no emotions and that was worse than the ups and downs of the bi-polar. So, I quit taking meds for awhile and I felt that I needed to get help because arguing with my Master doesn't help things. We have been doing better tho, and thank you for the condolences I do beleive that the meds they have work differently for different people. I am hoping tommorow when I just take the mood stablizer that I won't get sick if I do I will call the doc again to let him know that it possibly wasn't the anti depressant. I was really hoping for the anti depressant to work tho because I need something to help this depression.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 9:56:49 PM   
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I forgot to say I am so sorry about you dad, too. I imagine that is adding to the stress for sure. Good luck.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 10:08:15 PM   
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Well, lamictal sucks because it takes a while to work up to.  So, you are on an antidepressant that will exaggerate mood swings, along with a mood stabilizer that is not at a theraputic level, so it is not doing what it will do in a while.

so, its suck it up and deal.  It sucks.  But, your only immediate option is an antipsychotic :-)  Wait it out.  once you are stable on the mood stabilizer, the depression will not be as bad, and if it is, then you can re add your AD.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/27/2007 10:24:53 PM   
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quick note, lithium can cause hypothyroid disease if one is not careful. blood tests are a must for Aanyone taking this medication, i wish you the best.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/28/2007 4:55:25 AM   
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A small portion of people have an overreaction to some medications. I am one of those with SSRI's. They make me angry and borderline violent (not at all like my normal sweet laidback self).  After trying several over the years and getting this response i no longer take them. Ever. Perhaps this is what you are experiencing? I tried lithium years ago and like you instead of stabilization i was much worse, even when the dose was increased.  I'd give it another week or two if you can stand it. MOst things take at least 2 weeks to adjust, but if you get to the point that you can not take it anymore go to your dr. camp out on his doorstep if necessary to get him to take you seriously. But don't stop taking anything cold turkey without your dr's knowledge, too many things are dangerous to do that with.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/28/2007 6:14:29 AM   
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I don't think one week is enough time to make a judgement on a new medication.  Many anti-depressants take 4-6 weeks to reach full effect.  If this one doesn't work another one probably will.  There are many on the market that your doctor can try plus combinations of various meds.  Don't be concerned about what others say about a certain med not working for them.  Each person is different as far as what will work.  Keep in contact with your physician.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/28/2007 6:36:11 AM   
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Well I plan on keeping in contact with my Doc I was just wondering if anyone has felt this before. I have never had problems with anti depressants so I don't think that was the problem but I didn't take it this morning like my doc said so maybe I will know soon. Lithium worked for me after the dose was increased but he doesn't want me taking it but I know what lithium does to me and I had no side effects besides the mood swings that went away after my med levels were upped so maybe when I go back if I am still haveing these problems I have to go back the 16th of April I can talk to them about these problems. Well, I am still thinking I have some stress about this stuff but I know of no way to get rid of the stress so I guess I will just have to deal with it.

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/28/2007 7:17:51 AM   
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Are you seeing a psychiatrist?  Lithium is now considered an older drug, there are newer ones out that.  All I know is that anti-depressants can sometimes cause mania (or hypo mania) in people with manic-depression.  I don't know anything about the other mood stabilizers (such as li)

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RE: Problems with new Bi-polar meds.... - 3/28/2007 7:40:19 AM   
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Yes I am seeing a psychatrist. Most of the newer meds for mood stablizing are seizure medication and the main one that was made esspecially for Bi-polar was lithium and I know I did well on it personally and that was just like 3 years ago if that long. Well, when I was on anti depressants I never went into mania or hypo mania only when I am on a mood stabilizer at first after the first few days it goes away or it did before anyway.

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