Mavis
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ORIGINAL: Rover It's not my intention to offend you, or anyone else for that matter. But if submission is not something inherent (ie: something you are), how can it be anything other than role play (ie: something you do)? i have no problem with You calling it role-play if You wish. i also "role-play" being a mother, an employee, a wife.. this is just one more role i choose to play. i don't say i was born to be a slave, that it's hard-wired within me, it's a behavior i choose, and even then it's only played out within certain relationships in my life. quote:
As for submissives maintaining "negotiating rights", who gave them that right? What right does anyone have beyond what is agreed upon in their unique relationship? Forgive please, i was assuming the reader would devine the definition i use (and yes, i know many don't accept that one, but it works for me and mine.) "A submissive can negotiate for her needs and wants, the slave hands over to the Master the choosing of which wants to meet, and big M owns responsibility for meeting her "needs". example, a Dom might take no authority over sub in relation to subs career. but a Master/Mistress might decide even IF slave has a career. In any case, those things are really decided by the cpl and obviously not applied across the board, my statement was assuming the "rights" were conferred by negotiation at the outset. quote:
Personally, I would quickly show the door to any girl of mine that saw fit to become a "relationship trial lawyer". Since entering either a D/s or M/s relationship does require negotiation at the outset, "relationship trial lawyer" is a fitting description of hammering out contractual agreements. If the contract agreed to allows further negotiation, that role can be revisited. If not, then yes, i understand what You mean, Master doesn't tolerate my "but can i do that this afternoon instead?' queries. Which is why i said if it was allowed, i'd probably do it even more than i do, and i'm trying to learn not to!
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