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colouredin -> Humiliation (4/21/2008 9:54:08 AM)
When I went to a local meet the other week I met a few subs, one of whom I got on really well with and we have been chatting we have talked a bit about humiliation, he says that its something that he has never felt. That he enjoys it all too much. And this got me thinking where does humiliation come from? Its a feeling that something is wrong for some reason or an insecurity within ourselves, if we were totally comfy with our oriantation and who we are would we ever feel humiliated? Im just interested in what other people think to be honest, it may be that people see humilation as something differant, but I know that mine comes mostly from personal insecurity, often about my body and the like.

al2getherooky -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 11:54:22 AM)
Coloured, I get your new friend's point, but overthinking it might get you caught in a semantic logic loop. Just like pain has a negative connotation when associated with dropping a hammer on my toe, and a positive one when associated with striving to please a darling sadist, so, too, does humiliation wear different shades of red, depending on context. Just because it can be something processed enjoyably [exquisitely relished, even] doesn't mean you have to toss the word. :) ~a

sunshinemiss -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 1:48:24 PM)
Hi Coloured in, Did you try searching this? I know there are numerous threads on it already. peace, sunshine

colouredin -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 1:50:42 PM)
everything that I found with humilation was 'ways to humiliate' etc etc and i dont want to read pages about making people eat dog food or whatever, but thanks for your adivce

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 5:53:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: colouredin When I went to a local meet the other week I met a few subs, one of whom I got on really well with and we have been chatting we have talked a bit about humiliation, he says that its something that he has never felt. That he enjoys it all too much. And this got me thinking where does humiliation come from? Its a feeling that something is wrong for some reason or an insecurity within ourselves, if we were totally comfy with our oriantation and who we are would we ever feel humiliated? Im just interested in what other people think to be honest, it may be that people see humilation as something differant, but I know that mine comes mostly from personal insecurity, often about my body and the like. For me it is a burning, a very deep love/hate intertwining, state of humility and being twisted around by that person. Here is my essay again on what objectification/humiliation means and does to me. My most common form of objectification is as a sex toy and a servant. Part of it is BECAUSE of my academic background, I'm very smart and very well educated. I think a LOT, I work a LOT, I am a control freak, I have moderate OCD, I am the social planner for my group of friends. Being an object means you don't have to think, you don't have to stress, you just have to BE that object. You are there, purely and passively, for service and use. There's no need for you to interpret anything, no need for you to react, only simply to BE there. That's a pretty awesome state of being for me. Another part, the shown off part, is because I am an exhibitionist, I get a huge charge out of people's energy when they enjoy looking and playing with me. They are giving ME lots of attention, they want to touch ME, they want to use ME for pleasure, I can provide them with a release, with a good time, a good memory. The sexual usage part is just part of my universal sex fantasy life- it's just hot to be used, hot to be a hole to go in, do your thing and get out. I don't really know much about that other than what I've already stated. I can't tell you why it gets me so deep any more than I can tell you why bondage does. Something most subs and slaves can understand- it takes away choice. You don't have to think, you don't get to say no, you are there to always say YES, an object, a trophy doesn't get to say stop or get to dictate how it is used. I am somewhat materialistic in that I like to use my money and gifts to show people I care for them. It's a physical thing I can give to show I've been thinking of them and want to add to their lives. While I understand they don't NEED those things, it's a very powerful idea to me. So, to BE the object itself, to be given to someone else, has a distinct personal flavor to it. You'll notice- all of these reasons are about ME, what I enjoy, what I get out of it. The Owner will pass me around and use me in ways I don't necessarily enjoy directly. He will send me to people I don't have an affinity for, partly because he KNOWS I don't have an affinity for them. So I don't necessarily always love it, with anyone, anywhere. There are definitely circumstances in which I really hate it. While I love attention, I am actually quite uncomfortable ASKING for attention, I am very uneasy when people actually look at me and say "Now, I'm going to give you all this attention, just for you, just to enjoy, and there's nothing you can do about it." Part of it is because not too many people are actually really GOOD at giving me happy pleasure, part of it is that I've trained myself to adapt and become what the OTHER person needs for that session, which, if it's a good match, will also be what I need. And part of it is just my innate shyness and discomfort with being a focal point of attention. I don't know what to do with it, I feel very exposed. Perhaps a paradox for someone who LOVES being exposed, but that's why I call humiliation a "burning." So, the humiliation and objectification is a keen way for me to receive attention, which I love, while being passive about asking for it and simply being a pretty little butterfly that people are attracted to, rather than dealing with the harder ordeal for me of directly asking and directly being told to sit back and enjoy. http://www.collarchat.com/m_557686/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#557707 Embarassment vs humiliation http://www.collarchat.com/m_354018/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#354196 humiliation??? http://www.collarchat.com/m_412944/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#413037 what is good humiliation to you? http://www.collarchat.com/m_426015/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#426025 humiliation vs degradation http://www.collarchat.com/m_489256/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#489324 humiliation and vulnerability http://www.collarchat.com/m_310209/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#310223 Humiliation- verbal and physical http://www.collarchat.com/m_266448/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#266532 humiliation ideas Slaves on display via webcam? 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GreedyTop -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 6:30:58 PM)
~FR~ Coloured, darlin.... you have a delicious body :) SMOOCH

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 6:35:48 PM)
Humiliation to me is something that takes me out of my comfort zone and brings it to surface. Humiliation gives me that rush and a sense of embarrassment all at the same time. Different things depending on my mood and scene can make me feel humiliated. It isn't just one thing with me , it is a myriad of things.

batshalom -> RE: Humiliation (4/21/2008 6:38:30 PM)
Like LA, I find comfort in humiliation. All I have to do is to DO and to not think. My control freakish nature screams about it in my head until I sit back and don't give into it, and then it shuts up, and quite often in fact, it starts singing happy little vacation songs in my ear. (Please excuse my ramblings tonight. I'm buzzin' on Ambien which can lead to reading and writing difficulties but those animated little fellows up above this typing box are keeping me amused.)

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